Dana's Low-Carb for Life (Podcast)
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Today That Nice Boy I Married and I drove to Bardstown KY -- about two hours either way -- to buy a used deep freeze. Since we already have a big upright deep freeze, a small chest deep freeze, and a spare refrigerator with a freezer compartment, this may seem excessive to you. However, we've been wanting to buy a side of locally raised grass-fed beef, and will need the extra freezer space for that. Plus, we've got four meat-breed chickens that need to be, uh, processed; they're the size of Thanksgiving turkeys! And there was a truly humongous -- like 20-odd cubic feet -- chest freezer available for $125. So we spent the day driving through some really pretty parts of Kentucky.
Had breakfast before we went, of course. But by the time we were headed back, I was hungry. (TNBIM was not; he ate breakfast later than me, and anyway, he's always had a lighter appetite.) What there was on our route through Bardstown was a Burger King, so that's where I ate a late lunch/early supper.
Unlike many of the fast food joints, BK only has one main dish salad on the menu, though it does offer a choice of grilled or crispy chicken. Since "crispy" means "breaded," grilled will always be the low carb choice.
However, that wasn't really what I was in the mood for, so I ordered the garden salad (which is the same as the main dish salad, only without the chicken), and a Whopper, hold the bun. Confused the poor boy behind the cash register. Apparently, despite their "have it your way" slogan, the highly computerized registers at BK do not include a "hold the bun" button; the kid had to lean over the back counter and tell the cooks that I wanted the burger bunless. This confused them in their turn: "No bun? Where do I put the mayonnaise?" I suggested they put it right on the patty, along with the pickles, ketchup, tomato and onion. Which they did.
They hit on giving me my bun in a plastic bowl, which worked fine. My salad came in another plastic bowl, with a little insert on top with dividers in it. The top section contained about a half-dozen baby-cut carrots, a half-dozen grape tomatoes, and a handful of shredded cheese. Underneath was an ample quantity of lettuce -- romaine rather than iceberg, I'm pleased to report. Apparently the marketing gurus at Burger King central have calculated that giving the consumer the illusion of "making their own" salad by dumping the extra ingredients over the lettuce makes the whole thing seem... I dunno, more creative? Fresher? Something.
So I had a garden salad plus a Whopper with Cheese, no bun. I can't tell you the exact carb count, because -- again, despite the "have it your way" slogan -- the Burger King online menu calculator doesn't let one subtract the croutons from the salad. However, so far as I can tell, I got maybe 10 grams total carb, with 27 grams protein. Dunno how much fiber.
It was not a gourmet meal. That said, the salad was commendably fresh; not a rusty bit of lettuce in the bunch, nor a flabby tomato.
I'd also like to mention the dressing: I got the ranch dressing, the boring, predictable choice, but since it wasn't low fat, it seemed likely to be low in carbs. Reading the label, the first ingredient is soy oil, not a great thing. I'll take an extra fish oil capsule tonight to balance the omega-6 fatty acids in the dressing. The second ingredient, however, is buttermilk, which is a good thing. Then comes corn starch, not my favorite, and some thickeners and such. I should point out, however, that nowhere on the ingredient list do I find high fructose corn syrup; this is refreshing in a big-corporation fast-food packaged dressing. There is some sugar, but it's listed under the heading "contains 2% or less of...", and even then, it's number 8 on the list. There's not a lot of sugar in here.
So once again, I managed to get a reasonably healthful if uninspiring meal at a fast food joint. I just like to keep pointing out that it can be done.
Now to figure out how we're getting that immense freezer down the cellar stairs...
On the Road food
Everyones comments about taking the bun off etc. are just fine. However, now I am gluten free as well as low carb. Fast food places just don't cope with that well! I usually am forced into a regular restaurant where I can get what I need, the way I have to have it. If you can order food at a fast food place and throw out the bun, well, you are lucky.
LC Fast Food Favorite
Have you tried the new KFC Double Down? The low fat world is screaming about how horrible it is but if you get the broiled (it comes in breaded too) it's only 4 g carb, perfect for LC . Two grilled chicken breasts with a small slice of cheese and a couple razor thin slices of bacon. Very tasty. A bit high in sodium but sodium doesn't make you fat and it has never affected my high blood pressure. 253 calories, that's not bad for a meal. Nutrition info for all KFC offerings at:
http://www.kfc.com/nutrition/pdf/kfc_nutrition.pdf
Joan F
Wrong amount of calories
Thanks for the link, but you might want to take a look at it again - the "serving size" of the Double Down Grilled is 253 grams. It's 480 calories.
I ate a "regular" fried one a couple of week ago before I got back on the low carb bandwagon; the amount of grease in the thing left me nauseated...I felt terrible all afternoon. But I might give the grilled one a try.
Double Down
I haven't, for the simple reason that I'm not a big fan of chicken breast; I vastly prefer dark meat. I ate at a KFC last weekend when I was up in Indy shopping with my girlfriend Virginia, and I had a leg and a thigh, plus a serving of green beans and a side salad.
I agree completely that the dangers of sodium have been overstated, to say the least.
I just throw the bun away...
Oh I was served a Newman's own FAT FREE packet of ranch dressing from McDonalds that had about 22g of carbohydrates. That was not a typo. High fructose corn syrup was #2 or #3.
I recognize that more low-carber's should make a point to order a meal de-carbed; to make a statement, to train the company... buttttt since I moved to the east coast I don't bother. I just order the hamburger & the side salad and dump it on myself.
Now in California I used to be able to order my animalized lettuce wrapped burger at In N Out, and a lettuce wrapped burger at Carl's Jr. :-( -- and I got it without any fuss because it was an advertised feature. But neither restaurant is out here (and Hardee's doesn't count, it's so not the same).
When I get a polish at Costco, I consider the bun to be kinda like a wrapper...my hands are usually unwashed too so I hold the bun with my dirty hands and tear it away as I munch the onion & kraut & spicy mustard and set each ripped-away piece on the foil paper and when I'm done I wrap up my pile and toss it. I don't feel like I'm wasting food because it was garbage anyway. $1.50 for lunch.
Now what I am willing to do is write corporate my food menu ideas...
Discarding the Bun
Yeah, on my drives back from Chicago this winter, I would buy a McD's Angus Bacon Cheeseburger, take off the top bun, and use the bottom bun for a plate, edging the patty forward and biting off each bit before edging it some more.
Bread is just an edible napkin.
well napkins are edible
well napkins are edible too....can't say I have a taste for them but my dogs assure me they are great.
Fast food
If I had known you were coming to KY, I would have recommended some other places besides Burger King. We have some great restaurants and I have some good experiences keeping on track at many of them. Just wish it had not been so HOT for your trip. We are broiling in Louisville! Good luck with the freezer!
Pretty successful myself on the road
Dana,
I don't usually have difficulties when eating lowcarb at restaurants. My biggest challenge is calculating how much value I get from the different size burgers. McDoubles, for example, have been a good value. When I've ordered them no bun and nothing on them, I get two small beef patties, a slice of super processed cheese, and a leaf or so of Romaine. I order 3 or 4 and have a very filling meal for $3 or $4.
The only funny thing was the restaurant near Indianolis where the people in the kitchen prepared three buns with no meat. I was amazed and the clerk at the register laughed at the carelessness of the kitchen workers.
Dana, you are right that it is pretty easy to eat lowcarb on the road.
Three buns, no meat
I live in a lefty-trendy college town where vegetarianism is very common. More than once I've said "A Whopper, hold the bun" only to have the kid behind the counter hear "A Whopper, hold the meat." What the point is of a lovely white-flour sandwich I have yet to puzzle out.